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Have you been authorized to speak on OpenAI’s behalf? I assume not because your source is an NYT article.

> So they reached out to the other researchers as an attempt to share the credit

This isn’t at all what happened? What are you talking about?


That was in response to this part of OP's post:

> If I had done this, I also wouldn't have pestered the researchers on a Sunday night to meet immediately so we could negotiate a nice way of presenting the actions I had decided to take.

From what I can tell, both OpenAI and the researchers agree on this meeting happening, except both sides clearly have very different interpretations of what happened and why.


> Now, few coders use these learning resources (ai fetches it for them)

This isn’t the problem. The problem is that you don’t need to pay for (or care about) their services when an LLM can easily replicate them.


> AI can generate the components now at the same time it's doing everything else, so no reason to pay for their templates

So the AI can do a better job than the average front end web developer? Maybe you should take it a step further from “no reason to pay for templates”…


Tailwind templates give you a quick way to get good, functional, customizable components. LLMs give you a quicker way to get good-enough, functional customizable components. You have to pay for LLMs too, but you aren’t getting the LLM just for the components, and component generation is included.

Looking ahead, maybe LLM subscription prices will eventually have to go way up to justify the huge valuations AI companies have. So maybe this could change, but it won’t be until anyone making a living from template has had to move on, so we aren’t going back to when that was a thing.


It seems to me that this is the way the market is heading. Strange bleeding edge perf or sprawling complexity feels like the last niche of front end engineers. The rest will move further down the stack or be replaced.

The pain point tailwind supposedly solves is that people who are supposed to be front end web developers don’t understand CSS.

That’s like saying a carpenter doesn’t understand woodworking because they sometimes buy pre milled lumber. Or that landscaper a doesn’t understand mowing because they don’t trim each blade of grass individually.

Tailwind exists because no mortal is able to successfully center a div using CSS.

I don't agree with the other commenter. The point you make is a fair one.

However, I think the real information in your comment is that there are people making websites and web apps who aren't frontend developers. They're likely fullstack who are much more backend focused, and who do the frontend more out of necessesity than enjoyment. Tailwind enables those people who aren't experts in frontend to make things for the web without the necessary expertise to write CSS themselves.

That's why it's valuable - the point of Tailwind is that it solve the pain point (not knowing CSS) with money instead of time. But now people can solve it with AI instead.

This is a poor analogy, but maybe we should consider CSS as a lower level language than Tailwind, similar to JVM bytecode to Java. There are plenty of people who will tell you that a real Java developer understands the bytecode, but that doesn't stop people writing code in Java without knowing the lower level.


Wait, you’re thinking about buying “skills” instead of actual components that you can just use? This seems insane to me.

Then you’d like the upgrade program? The only difference is there is a final balloon payment for it to be yours. You end up paying exactly the same as paying up front.

1. You can buy it outright at the end of the term by paying the remainder of the sticker price if you really want to keep it.

2. If you’re upgrading your phone on a one or two year cycle, you end up paying the sticker price minus the trade in value at the end of the term.

I don’t really see an issue in either scenario?


The upgrade program cost including the buyout is the exact same price as if you paid it all upfront.

Interesting. So everyone should be doing the lease.

No, because then you pay full price. If you buy your iPhone at a third party retailer the price is much lower.

The iPhone Air is €1329 at Apple and €849 at retailers.


I don’t think American retailers do the subscription model anymore, which is what would let them subsidize phones like this.

Intersex and chromosomal disorders don’t change the sexual binary. They aren’t some weird other sex.

You should probably let all the doctors and scientists know that you're changing the definition of sex and they're all wrong then.

There are literally two sexes. There is no doctor or scientist that would disagree. What other sexes do you think exist?

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