Horrible people

What if the (unstated) idea is that Irregular are a security lab and public relations company, and anthropic/open ai know this? (Does the name hint at this?)

Then, irregular can go around making a huge mess in security terms whilst achieving a huge win in terms of public relations, with headlines across the world. And would keep getting hired.

Yes, everything outside of personal experience is somewhat fictional - one probably wouldn't agree with the biases, assumptions or assessments of any author/content creator.

We already live in fascism - governments and corporations are just wings of the same bird.

Shirley, the most sensitive dump is in testicles? Microplastics in balls. Like a ball pit.

What do you think Wittgenstein would say?

Alas, Wittgenstein can only explain it like you are 0.5.

> I would fund things which make people less susceptible to manipulation and more equipped to think for themselves.

This also would be manipulative. If you think society can provide you freedom, you are looking in the wrong places.

I think we can work together and provide ourselves freedom/collective agency/ some amount of say in the order of things

So where should one look?

It seems tome that society is very much what does provide freedom, just not all freedoms.

One should look to oneself, and act according to what you believe to be right. Internalising an externally provided morality is not it.

So you don't learn from other people's experience?

How would that be manipulative?

If you alter people's natural behaviour so that they are less manipulative, do you think this is the same as having not taken that action? It is a (further) unnatural intervention. It would be like giving someone an emetic because they ate too much.

The anti-manipulation training or the emetic could be beneficial, I agree.

The 'proper' answer would be to address the manipulator, to prevent their interventions, so that they can live their lives naturally, if they are not harming anyone.

> You cannot judge if it's worth it from the cow's perspective, it got to live, enjoy the sun, eating in the field, doing cow stuff, same as us.

Yep, same as us.

Except it's a cow, so not the same as us. I mean, presumably.

Yes, we operate at a different level, and don't serve the same purpose (humans are not food). Similarities are that we are engineered (psychologically, 13+ years of schooling), operate in an artificial environment not a natural one. All sorts of manipulative tricks are used in order to convince us to gift the fruits of our labour. Typically most people hand over > 45% of their effort (taxes) for over 30 years. If the best value humans offered could be provided in just two years of physical growth (like meat cows), we would be facing different terrain and expectations.

If the cow doesn't have the same living experience as we do, to some extent, then you have no argument for not farming them, since it doesn't matter, because "there's nobody in there" as it were.

You need to make up your mind.

I'm sorry, make up my mind about what? I think you have me confused with someone else?

> We will get much better at manipulation and better at people “writing” things to justify their own feelings.

Yes, ai has strong narcissistic traits. And so do the people that own them. And pay for them.

In response, people in general will become fat more capable of recognising the manipulation. And will become more paranoid.

And you're also on HN, you're not exactly the average human being.

Do you use “RSS” as a protol specifically, or do you use “RSS” as in “any feed no matter the protocol”?

I was responding to the generic comment that:

> pretty much no-one uses either of them

And I stand with that phrase. I'm pretty sure that are more VHS users than RSS these days. It's not strictly zero, but it's a negligible fraction of internet users.

I don't disagree. But I would also assert the absolute number of RSS users is probably higher than it has ever been. And that's what matters, not what "most people do" now that there are far more non-technical users on the internet than ever before.

One person using something doesn't mean it's popular.

What can I say - its popular with me! Its also well supported, so that's something.

But by that standard Betamax was popular too…

I don't use Betamax, nor is it well supported.