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Well that happened already without AI to Mochizuki with his proposed solution to the abc conjecture.

I know it adds no value, but cannot resist telling I have thought that exact same analogy.

So an LLM (or more realistically, a huge swarm of agents) should check his work, find a mistake or gap, or, if there is none, provide a formal verification.

When you say "confidential in-house version", what are you referring to? Local models? Bedrock deployment with "guardrails"? A different thing?

Enterprise Agreements can have binding terms for this. When I launch the ChatGPT desktop app, and open the options pane it says "Corpname data is not used for OpenAI training".

I would expect academic institutions to require equivalent contractual terms.


Some of the recent statements have caused at least me to look those claims in a bit more nuanced light. In particular what does OpenAI consider to be "your data"? I would assume input (prompt) to be it at least. However it becomes more murky when you consider other aspects. Is output "your data"? Is the chain of thought that you are not even allowed to see? Can they use these and possibly even inputs to generate synthetic data that is then used?

All of these would seem to be "your data", but when they are carefully only including certain aspects (like prompts) in their statements it starts to sound they want to hide something.


Exactly. We as users have zero way to confirm they are honoring even the letter of these agreements, much less the intent. And it's super easy for them to weasel around and find a way to cheat while still having a legal claim to honoring the contract. And if you've forgotten, all of these companies are built on a foundation of ignoring copyright law.

Agreed. It would actually be a fairly perverse argument to claim that most AI output is somehow NOT owned by the AI provider…

Why wouldn’t they claim ownership of the AI output? They likely already claim ownership of the “transformation” (AI training) of the (pirated) input data.


Sure but they could also rewrite your data to create synthetic reconstructions and many academics, sign up for their own accounts.

For example, at school they can have an agreement with Gemini, but the student / academic could have bought an individual pro subscription to any other model provider.


Thing is... if OpenAI cannot even confidently say if some data was used for training or not, as their models and weights and stuff are mostly black boxes, how could you enforce or demonstrate in court that case?

About researchers, lots of them are probably using personal plans that aren't even reimbursed by their institutions. I could ask Cordova's research institution (I MAY) but I wouldn't be surprised at all if that was the case.


The open internet is now a cesspit, with very little new good data. Expect everyone to train on user data always. They just got clever about whitening it.

My university has an agreement with Microsoft copilot. We can log into copilot in many ways, and it's only if you log in the correct way that you get the "Enterprise Data Protection" copilot version, with a green shield symbol. There are many ways to go wrong here!

Not a resident but I have friends there and stayed in a bunch of different apartments.

Bath rooms in smaller apartments, and also in hotels, tend to be, literally, whole-room plastic/resin structures, so it dries easier and if mold appears it's in the plastic surface and easy to get rid of it.

I have a friend with a very big fancy apartment, and his huge bath room is covered mostly in tile and has very good ventilation. The bath even has a waterproof TV so you can watch a movie meanwhile!


Well, OpenAI said "we didn't read the conversations", but they never discarded that the model was training with that data... so even worse.

Only? That doesn't look small to me.

> I assume going to sauna takes an hour, [...] but beyond that the minutes inside/outside are a mystery...

I understand that as the general act of getting up, starting the sauna, going for your clothes change, resting a couple times, going to the kitchen for water, shower, switch off, kitchen again, whatever... you've filled an hour of your time.


That interpretation does make sense. Just heating the sauna can take even longer.

Credit assignment is how researchers keep their job.

Soon it won't be like this!

That's like top 1% salary for Germany. Maybe 3% if you count family units, or 0.5% for individual taxpayers. I'd say that's pretty good.

Yeah, and buying a house is still kind of out of reach with this income if you don't start paying your mortgage whey you're 20something...

Yep, at least in my case (Spain), given the price of the houses and that banks are giving mortgages for 70-80% of the value, tops, you better have 100K in the bank for the down payment if you want to live in a relatively big city. So even with a good salary, is difficult to buy a house.

Ah yeah, let me know about your healthcare too, specially after you quit that job. And unemployment. And public services. And scientific entities. And general cost of living. Good you have the military to spend a trillion a year in contractors.

You would pay $0 for your healthcare premiums since you would qualify for Medi-Cal

Thanks. I was pinging some people near the mentioned Córdoba to see if they had any insights, but no extra info yet...

You should call El Niño, he lives close to the Mexican border and is at home after 6...

Well people you fail again...I am sorry for you....

"Mr A. Nino weathers a storm of protest" - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/mr-a-nino-weathers-a-stor...


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