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You do know that there were over a dozen social media networks that facebook bought over and effectively extinguished or merged into their behemoth right ? They deliberately ensured that choices were extremely limited. Any "alternative" that got popular and not under control of another behemoth was effectively taken over or killed. So your "use an alternative" logic just does not compute.

>> alternatives for keeping in touch

Phone calls, knocks on doors, emails, regular meetups at places.


My product is so powerful, you all need to pay me more money to keep it safe for you.

But isn't this completely fine ? The US became an industrial powerhouse by doing the same. Even barred foreign inventors from obtaining parents in the US. The U.S. Patent Act of 1793 was explicitly structured to favor domestic industrial growth at the expense of foreign inventors. Provided total legal immunity within the U.S. for commercializing pirated ideas. Only when the US became #1, did international protection of its patents became a priority.

China merely followed the American approach towards industrial success.


I don’t think it’s completely fine to steal others technologies and products no. There are ways to be competitive and in an ethical manner

The idea that ideas can be stolen and that doing so is wrong is fairly new and somewhat "unnatural". So the ethics of "stealing ideas" are not entirely well-defined. I think the only thing that almost everyone agrees on is that the person who had an idea first (or at least popularized it) should get recognition for it.

Huh? Patent systems go back hundreds of years! Yes nobody owns the idea of the lathe. We need to get past that. But for centuries, societies have recognized that someone who spends time and money developing a particular invention or manufacturing process can have legit rights to it

Its more: "Do as we say, not as we do". Lots of traditional techniques were appropriated and patented by the West and your nation deliberately ignored patents during its industrialization phase. But when the East that threw off the shackles of colonialism does so, oh my god, it is theft.

"Steal to get ahead, but suppress others who steal after you are ahead"


Ok that’s pretty creative to say “America did it 200 years ago” into a permanent license to copy and steal. Hell of a standard

US removed the choke of colonialism 250 years ago and ignored patents freely until well into the 20th century. And even today, a foreign patent isn't automatically enforceable in America.

India had to fight extremely hard in USPTO to stop Indian turmeric from being patented. Perhaps you folks should go into Chinese offices and fight for years to be equitable.


This isn’t the gotcha you think it is. They do.

Wouldn't a normalized protocol based on AST vocabulary and tree operations make more sense ?

That would require the editor to be able to build an AST - defeating the point of LSP, because now the editor needs to know every possible language again

I meant the language server builds the normalized, lossless AST and gives it to the editor. Changes in the AST can be provided as events/diffs to the editor. The normalized, source-mapped AST is effectively the stable language protocol. (Possibly given in a columnar, database form via Apache Arrow, but thats impl specific). Was discussing alternative architectures with a collague since even the best language servers really suck on large projects.

The scale is completely different. It is like comparing a tiny ant to a Star Devouring Shoggoth. Anthropic destroyed millions of books in hardly any time. They are destroying the foundations of civilization

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...


> They are destroying the foundations of civilization

No, they are not. For all the hype around that 404 media article, no one came forward with titles or authors. Turns out the booksellers that sold them those books said they were "dead inventory".

If you're going to assert that companies are destroying the foundations of civilization, you're going to have to produce quite a bit more evidence than the (poorly cited) 404 Media article.


Evidence ? Good lord, how about the US district court of justice ? Anthropic physically destroyed millions of books after scanning them - are you really, truly questioning that ?

Here is what was signed by Judge Alsup at https://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/califo...

> Anthropic spent many millions of dollars to purchase MILLIONS of print books, often in used condition. Then, its service providers stripped the books from their bindings, cut their pages to size, and scanned the books into digital form — discarding the paper originals.

Dismissing the above as "dead inventory" is atrocious reasoning. The more obscure/low-circulation books are arguably MORE valuable as training material because they contain information that is less likely to be duplicated across the ordinary web.

And 404 Media's reporting wasn't merely based on a bookseller's terminology of your "dead inventory". There are now unsealed Anthropic internal documents describing Project Panama as an effort to "destructively scan all the books in the world"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/podcasts/post-reports/the-que...


They are destroying books that they bought. It should not be controversial that part of ownership is decided how to dispose of the owned object.

But nothing you're citing adds up to "destroying the foundations of civilization". What we have instead is companies that are now paying to get copies of creative works (isn't this what everyone is complaining about with all the "theft" rhetoric?) so they can use them for training.

When they discuss scanning all the books in the world, they are not talking about every copy, since that makes no sense. They want one of each.

So, in the end, this all sounds like some breathless emotional take because large companies are buying copies of books and using them to train AI and throwing them away. They are probably destroying fewer books than the publishing houses do over the same time period.

This is like the water discussion: people with no understanding of agriculture (or publishing) hear a sound-bite about what AI is doing, and, with little-to-no context, devolve into a panic about it.

Again: cite real harm. What books aren't available? What knowledge was destroyed? There are real concerns about AI, but this whole discussion is a distraction.


Many were out of print or were used copies, so they weren't books you could simply order new from a publisher. They are out of print. Anthropic deliberately sourced large quantities through used-book sellers such as Better World Books and World of Books and destroyed the physical copies after scanning them.

If you find this a "breathless emotional take", then I don't even know what to say. Nothing will meet your "evidence" criteria to dislodge your fervent fawning and support for destruction carried out by AI corporations.


> They are destroying books that they bought. It should not be controversial that part of ownership is decided how to dispose of the owned object.

By your reasoning, if I could afford to buy every surviving painting by Van Gogh and Rembrandt and I burned them in a bon fire I wouldn't be taking anything from human culture and nobody should care at all about what I do with my belongings.

Destroying something that is rare or one of a kind and valuable does matter. Doing it so that you can exclusively profit off of charging people for software that regurgitates lossy and error filled versions of what was lost makes it even worse.


In your scenario, the bug is letting someone control all of that in a private collection. But that scenario is completely divorced from what is actually happening, so I don't think it's worth discussing too deeply here.

If you actually object to the concept that people that own a physical object get to decide how to dispose of it, that would be an interesting discussion to have because it would fly in the face of property ownership rights.


Why such a blinkered argument, I own the soda can I just drank but it is still, arguably, wrong of me to chuck it in the trash instead of the recycle bin. Yes, you have the "right" to dispose of things you own but there's more to what's right than that. There's human decency, consideration, awareness of the environment, the spirit of the laws, cases the laws were not designed for in mind etc.

Like, tell your mother or HS teacher you decided not to recycle because you own your trash. See how well that clever argument goes.


if the recyclers really think the aluminum in that can is valuable, theyll fush it out if the garbage or the dump to get it.

putting that sorting and disposal on end customers was a business way of offloading their making single use trash problems on somebody else.

point any blame for cans in the trash where it belongs - can makers


you should indeed be able to, but maybe buying art shouldn't be allowed at all, with people only being allowed digital recreations.

why do you need more than a picture of the rembrandt? there's so much good artwork easily available that the rembrandt is only worth money because hoity toity people want to store their money in it and in the future sell it again


More so because their digital copy increases in value because of the destruction.

Only in a world where we can't make new copies, which does not seem to be this world.

> There are now unsealed Anthropic internal documents describing Project Panama as an effort to "destructively scan all the books in the world"

If I do something destructive to my copy of Accelerate -- feed it through a scanner, leave it where the munchkin can reach, whatever -- that does nothing to deprive you of your copy. Books are funny like that; there tend to be lots of identical ones.


Russia also criticized the ethnic cleansing of Donbass via artillery strikes on civilian areas - casualties and deaths reported daily in the LPR and DPR media, but never made a single peep in the Western news.


I meant the strikes while the Minsk ceasefire was in effect - one that was admitted to by Merkel to merely buy time for Ukraine's arms build-up into the 3rd largest European military. And then used effectively to shell and kill Russian civilians including children. Not a SINGLE word in the Western media. There dozens of such daily reports in 2021 marking deaths and casualties as very banal. Never made a peep in the Western news.

https://antimaydan.info//opolchenie_novorossii/svodki_ot_opo...

https://www.osce.org/sites/default/files/2021-04-06_SMM_Dail...

https://www.interfax-russia.ru/military/news/547769


There were massive amounts of violations of the various Minsk agreements over the years.

This specific example was reported by afp. There was no evidence of it being a drone or a shell, and no evidence of who fired.

https://www.currenttime.tv/a/31206031.html


God, this was so complicated to understand just to get an icon aligned properly with multi-line text. Someone needs to re-design CSS from scratch for average human brains. Its has become a rube goldberg machine of complexity.

The dollar is most certainly backed by military of the Corporate States. This is eminently observable to the rest of the world, who tend to get "regime changed" when the talk comes about not using the USD.

The leaked, then, declassified emails about Gaddafi and how his "Gold Dinar" was considered a threat really opens your eyes on why the Corporate States maintains a very big stick to hit anyone they don't like in the world and most especially nations who were foolish enough to disarm, stupidly trusting the Corporate States.


Low earth orbit isn't that much space though right ? It is effectively a stack of practical orbital shells. A rogue nation state can make satellite launches financially unfeasible.

Feels like the AI Lords will fully own the knowledge space in the future. They will be the ones to pay gigs to get people to code or write for them for pennies. And anything you produce will be owned by them fully of-course.

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